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I have searched the forums and am surprised that there has been no mention of Ernst Krenek’s Suite for mandolin and guitar, op. I find this. In addition to his Suite, which is a nice piece, he also wrote Hausmusik for guitar, violin, recorder, and piano. I don’t think I’ve got Krenek’s suite. Find composition details, parts / movement information and albums that contain performances of Suite for guitar, Op. on AllMusic. Ernst Krenek. Suite for.

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Ernst krenek–suite for mandolin and guitar. I have searched the forums and am surprised that there has been no mention of Ernst Krenek’s Suite for mandolin and guitar, op. I find wuite to be a major modern work for mandolin, and a piece that I love. I have uploaded an audio file of the 3rd guiatr from a UCLA performances on my myspace music page see: I feel I have a special connection to this music as my instructor and one of my mentors at UCLA, where I studied classical guitar, was the late Theodore Norman see: In short, Ted was one of the first classical guitarists to embrace the–at the time–new language on modernism.

He also was friends with Krenek guiitar Schoenberg. I, unfortunately, never had the opportunity to meet Krenek, but some as my fellow students did make the trip from L. I regret that I passed up on that opportunity. Thanks for this, Buzz. I remember listening to Marteau with Norman on guitar way back, and learning the Krenek Suite for guitar. There were some chamber works suote well with guitar and maybe mandolin, but I’ve never come across op. The clip is very nice but too brief.

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Is the work available from a publisher? Yes, it is published by Barenreiter. I bought my copy off of sheetmusicplus. Krenek’s Suite for guitar, op. I sometimes give it to students who I feel will be receptive to it at Cal Poly Pomona, where I teach. According to Ted Norman, Krenek composed most of it while he was staying at his house in L. Ted Norman is listed as the editor of the Suite for guitar, and I remember him saying that a fair bit of editing was required, as there were chords that were unplayable, etc.

She too said that there was a fair bit of editing necessary for that piece, for the same reasons. Krenek wrote music as he conceived it and left it up to the performers to translate it to their instruments. Hello Buzz, Thank you for the link with Krenek’s Suite op. Indeed a highly interesting work in the mandolin and guitar repertoire. An excerpt from the last part of the text: After the war was over, John, a decorated war hero, returned to his home and re-established relations with Blind Joe.


I have only heard one live performance, an excellent one by Stanley Yates I also have a recording, I believe by Stefano Grandona. Guitsr the end, though, I don’t think the piece tuitar “works” that well, and not because of the language there are other works in the guitar literature from roughly the same period that, in my opinion, make a bigger impact; “Nunc” by Petrassi comes right to mind.

I respect the Krenek but it doesn’t move me.

I feel the same way about the mandolin-guitar suite — a fine piece, one that I respect, but not one I pull out of the file drawer where it resides all that often to read through or to learn. Nunc is a great piece. I know it well. However, I feel that the Krenek pieces both the guitar Suite and the guitar and mandolin Suite are also great works. Obviously, one can discuss the merits or faults of particular works ad nauseum.

All I can do is describe my feelings about what I enjoy about a particular work or a particular composer’s body of works. I know some people, like yourself, that are fans of modernism but feel that Krenek’s musical language can be a bit austere sorry if I am putting words in your mouth.

A piece like Nunc and the Suite are good pieces to compare as they are similar in certain ways and different in others.

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I find Nunc to be full of more overtly “lyrical” gestures. Maybe it is the Italian background of the composer? However, I find that in much of Krenek’s music the lyricism is contained within a pretty strict formal framework. It’s no coincidence that the Suite for mandolin and guitar is full of baroque-like textures: Maybe it’s his German background maybe not?

When I try to help students express themselves when learning the Krenek Suite for guitar I sometimes describe it this way, and it seems to help. Don’t take this as a criticism of Petrassi’s music. He is a top rate composer. Just my 2 cents. As I krenfk, when I listen to or play the Krenek piece I respect it but it doesn’t move me, as music.

He was a fine composer but, as a listener or player, I prefer others. Buzz, The Krenek op. What other piece by an equally important 20th century composer do mandolinists have? I think that your performance of the third movement is first-rate! When do we get to hear the rest of it? Mark, thank you for your kind words. Coming from sjite of the persons responsible for making this piece happen, I consider that a big compliment. Regarding hearing more of our performance: Peter Yates and I performed this peice four times last year.


Unfortunately, only one concert was professionally recorded, so that is all I have to offer. I’ve just uploaded another movement for the Suite on my myspace page. However, Suuite must explain something first. If it were not for something that happened during the performance it would be sutie great audio file. The movement is the Soliliqui, one of my favorites of the Suite. When done well, it can really draw in the audience in an intimate way, as the title of the movment suggests.

About 15 seconds into it a cell phone of someone in the front row went off, then the person next to him groaned out loud in displeasure, then the phone emitted one of those ring-tone like noises that they sometimes do when they are being shut off.

Oh well, what can one do? I probably won’t keep that movement up on my page for too long, but if anyone is interested in hearing another movement and doesn’t mind some 21st century inturuption they should give it a listen. Not only is their performance of the Krenek Suite vuitar but the entire album is fantastic.

I recorded the Suite op. I like very much this language and when I studied this work I was fascinated to find different references to music history every two bars.

But this works it is far to be guitzr collection of musical quotes: This works is a source of musical ideas. Glad to have another Krenek advocate and another recorded version of the piece.

You should ssuite the Krenek archive about it, if you have not already. I wrote to the Krenek Foundation in Austria, but I think they were not so interested because they didn’t answer and they didn’t add the CD to their discography.